tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post4966563044743970083..comments2024-02-29T02:54:19.767-05:00Comments on Babbling Books: Can You Forgive Her? by Anthony TrollopeBrian Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-88447338119211691132018-02-24T08:30:10.451-05:002018-02-24T08:30:10.451-05:00Hi Baili - I think that you would like this book. ...Hi Baili - I think that you would like this book. Trollope’s characters are usually so very nuanced. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-88698417646312508642018-02-24T03:25:39.654-05:002018-02-24T03:25:39.654-05:00Story sounds really interesting with well woven pl...Story sounds really interesting with well woven plot and brilliantly treated characters Brain!<br /><br />Alice sounds like a quite complicated character though Glencora has the sympathy in spite of her flaws .<br /><br />i am writing this one down in the list of my "will read books"bailihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06498012175058870980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-71637671366310681462017-03-29T19:22:18.315-04:002017-03-29T19:22:18.315-04:00Thanks JoAnn - Indeed there were some surprises he...Thanks JoAnn - Indeed there were some surprises here in terms of the male characters. <br /><br />I know that have not read Phineas Finn. I look forward to your thoughts on it when you have done so. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-26912423988834984562017-03-29T08:37:11.679-04:002017-03-29T08:37:11.679-04:00I started with your Phineas Finn post today, but f...I started with your Phineas Finn post today, but followed the link here instead as I recently finished Can You Forgive Her. Thanks for including it! As always, this is a thoughtful reflection on Trollope's work. Trollope certainly offers up fascinating contrasts in his male characters. By the end, there is nothing redeeming about George, but I was moved by Plantagenet's transformation. The display, and follow through, on his feelings for Glencora were a surprise. I'll skim over your thoughts on Phineas Finn now, but save commenting for later.JoAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691864361197071517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-88718059056902637392016-10-14T19:54:30.772-04:002016-10-14T19:54:30.772-04:00I'm now looking forward to that second post, B...I'm now looking forward to that second post, Brian!! :)Maria Beharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13635809880830316283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-51818683768849205652016-10-14T16:05:57.122-04:002016-10-14T16:05:57.122-04:00This is all fascinating material - making sense of...This is all fascinating material - making sense of people's true character in light of their social roles and the expectations other people place on them, and how much all of these elements combine to form the "self." Excellent commentary!HKatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17653570160517335758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-29132532211759343162016-10-13T05:33:10.939-04:002016-10-13T05:33:10.939-04:00Thanks so much Hi Maria.
I think that you would ...Thanks so much Hi Maria.<br /><br /> I think that you would really like Trollope. In particular, I think that you would love The main character of the The warden, Septimus Harding. <br /><br />In other books by Trollope, there seemed to be great sensitivity towards the plight of women in society. In this book Trollope, thigh not insensitive seems to portray some old fashioned, what we would call sexist, sentiments. While he does not disparage women, he seems to suggest that very conventional gender roles benefit both men and women. I have been thinking that I might devote a seperate post to it. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-77136757598568706962016-10-12T13:34:38.458-04:002016-10-12T13:34:38.458-04:00GREAT commentary as usual, Brian!
I can see that ...GREAT commentary as usual, Brian!<br /><br />I can see that Trollope is one of your favorite writers, and he does sound so appealing, too! The fact that he examines human relationships as closely as he does makes me want to read his work, as I enjoy novels which explore character interactions in great detail.<br /><br />I also like the fact that Trollope's characters are nuanced, and not stereotypical. From your descriptions, they're not sentimentalized, either. <br /><br />I also like the fact that women's issues, as well as women's independence, are explored. I really need to start reading Trollope! I will probably start with the Barsetshire series, as you've mentioned that "Can You Forgive Her?" is darker.<br /><br />Thanks for the fantastic review!! :)<br />Maria Beharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13635809880830316283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-85447883518396892642016-10-10T05:14:34.873-04:002016-10-10T05:14:34.873-04:00Thanks for the link RT. I will be visiting.
I te...Thanks for the link RT. I will be visiting. <br /><br />I tend to be a stickler for reading series in order. So you could begin with this book as it is the first in the Palliser series and it is excellent. <br /><br />The alternative would be to begin with The Warden, which is the first boom in the Chronicles of Barsetshire Series. I thought that was very good and the books that follow it I found to be outstanding. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-48832278120599771282016-10-08T19:03:26.082-04:002016-10-08T19:03:26.082-04:00May I put you on the spot? I have not read anythin...May I put you on the spot? I have not read anything by Trollope. Where is a good place to begin? <br />BTW, I have "reinvented" myself with a different blogging-self at a new address, which you can find here:<br />http://theabbessofandalusia.blogspot.com/<br />All the best from the Gulf coast,<br />TimRTDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17113953356514605424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-80390823365832615762016-10-08T14:02:50.114-04:002016-10-08T14:02:50.114-04:00Thanks Naida.
Trollope always digs deep into huma...Thanks Naida.<br /><br />Trollope always digs deep into human issues. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-52621298631928489532016-10-07T16:31:41.839-04:002016-10-07T16:31:41.839-04:00I know you are a fan of Anthony Trollope, this one...I know you are a fan of Anthony Trollope, this one sounds good as well. Interesting that he portrays the Byronic characters in a different light. Also that he touches on women's role here.<br />Great post as always. Enjoy your weekend.The Bookwormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10217390642323530030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-14037045569791092882016-10-06T19:53:36.601-04:002016-10-06T19:53:36.601-04:00Thanks Reader's Tale!Thanks Reader's Tale!Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-57074884394069790372016-10-06T12:14:44.542-04:002016-10-06T12:14:44.542-04:00Great review as always. This story sounds fascinat...Great review as always. This story sounds fascinating :)The Reader's Taleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12701126931175725145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-82373891453844314922016-10-05T05:33:01.783-04:002016-10-05T05:33:01.783-04:00Hi Tracy - Trollope always surprises with the comp...Hi Tracy - Trollope always surprises with the complexity of his characters. Even when it comes to the rich and powerful. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-26517029689982027242016-10-04T10:49:52.032-04:002016-10-04T10:49:52.032-04:00Not an author I have ever read or even necessarily...Not an author I have ever read or even necessarily considered reading but with the words 'the stereotypical Victorian images of the cold, emotionless and privileged man is shown to be superficial' you have me thinking I should.<br /><br />Another thoughtful review Brian, thanks.Felicity Grace Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17852843882007267665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-21230634284988273032016-10-03T20:18:06.996-04:002016-10-03T20:18:06.996-04:00Hi Jane - I loved the last Barsetshire book, The L...Hi Jane - I loved the last Barsetshire book, The Last Chronicle of Barset, so I think that you are in for a treat. <br /><br />I have no doubt that you will like this one too. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-2916907160302099312016-10-03T20:15:47.657-04:002016-10-03T20:15:47.657-04:00Hi Stefanie - I liked the first The Barsetshire bo...Hi Stefanie - I liked the first The Barsetshire book, The Warden a lot. However, I thought that the second book in that series, Barchester Towers, was outstanding and it is still my favorite Trollope novel. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-68055959942727662742016-10-03T20:13:21.676-04:002016-10-03T20:13:21.676-04:00Hi Lainy,
I think that you would like Trollope. I...Hi Lainy,<br /><br />I think that you would like Trollope. If you read him, I would love to know what you thought.Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-19989426369093389622016-10-03T14:39:35.640-04:002016-10-03T14:39:35.640-04:00The only Trollope I have read is the first book in...The only Trollope I have read is the first book in the Barsetshire series and I liked it but wasn't impressed enough to ever pick up another one. This series sound much more interesting!Stefaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14943596258182968212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-48259848635618099232016-10-03T13:29:04.839-04:002016-10-03T13:29:04.839-04:00This does sound much darker than the Barsetshire n...This does sound much darker than the Barsetshire novels, but very intriguing with lots to think about. Glad to hear the narrator is still witty--one of the best parts of a Trollope novel, I think. I have one more Barsetshire to read and then on to the Pallisers.<br /><br />Thanks for a great review that really whetted my appetite.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-31778158794718573842016-10-03T10:59:31.803-04:002016-10-03T10:59:31.803-04:00I don't think I have read this author but I ha...I don't think I have read this author but I have seen the name, will need to have a wee eye out for him, interesting thoughts as always.<br /><br />Lainy http://www.alwaysreading.net<br /><br />So many books, so little timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07564778178609301461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-21926192951862794732016-10-02T19:22:49.764-04:002016-10-02T19:22:49.764-04:00Hi Susan - Trollope is so good at portraying chara...Hi Susan - Trollope is so good at portraying characters. His depiction of men falling into darkness is so well done. <br /><br />JoAnn of Lakeside Musing and I seem to be on parallel Trollope tracks with our reading.<br /><br />Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-24939114922194823282016-10-02T19:19:26.335-04:002016-10-02T19:19:26.335-04:00Hi Johnathan - I would highly recommend that you r...Hi Johnathan - I would highly recommend that you read the book that follows The Warden, Barchester Towers. It is my favorite Trollope so far. I thought it was outstanding. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4043273283783489008.post-29678879198109789502016-10-02T19:17:41.814-04:002016-10-02T19:17:41.814-04:00Hi Guy - In many ways Trollope's books do take...Hi Guy - In many ways Trollope's books do take me into another world. On the other hand the human frailties that he described are relevant to our current world. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.com